Fine or dead wrote on Jun 6, 2008 11:15 PM:
" It's about personal rights, yah know like the Japaneses had in 1942. There's no laws saying you can't run around with scissors. And kids don't feel that they're rebels for not wearing there seat belts. That's rediculas, that's what ciggeretts are for. "
do i know the herman wrote on Jun 6, 2008 11:09 PM:
" I agree with what's been said it's all about money. A seatbelt should be your right as driver or passenger. Soon you'll see cops pulling people over for not having their shoes string tied. "
Herman the German wrote on Jun 6, 2008 3:29 PM:
" "This is a free country. You are free to do what we tell you to do." Signed, your Government. "
Insurance wrote on Jun 5, 2008 7:06 AM:
" I used to not even think about or not bother with putting one on. Now, it's habit. You may think you are a safe driver but that doesn't mean that the other's are. With speeding drivers, road rage and other problems just wear one!! If not, pay the ticket!! As far as motorcycles, well, not much protection from ANYTHING, it's the RISK you chose to take. Any how, these small little things are politically driven by insurance companies as then that gives them an "out" option also when incidence occur. Insurance companies do not pay out like they used to. If you have a major accident due to someone elses fault, you are at fault too and the insurance companies win, over your injuries. The hospitals and attorney's get all your money, if your lucky, you may be ahead $1.00, but may suffer for your injuries for years if not life...... "
REActually its not false. wrote on Jun 3, 2008 1:49 PM:
" True you can be pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt.
FALSE this is about MONEY. PERIOD
Anytime you get pulled over in this state it's all about revenue.
In the process of pulling you over for no-seatbelt or a "BAD LIGHT" they are looking for other offenses, like running your plates,checking warrants, ect. to write tickets for
I used to love getting pulled over for "A BAD LIGHT" and then when you investigate the "BAD LIGHT" it's working. I even had a State Patrol last year tell me I couldn't exit the vehicle to inspect his claim, I exited anyway and guess what it was working just fine. I was PULLED over because he said that while passing me "I COULD NOT SEE YOUR SHOULDER HARNESS" So for people to say you cannot be pulled over solely for the SEATBELT they don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.
Another thing is if they are always looking for the Seatbelt being used under normal traffic stops then why do we even need a special "CLICK IT OR TICKET" time frame????? "
Actually its not false. wrote on Jun 1, 2008 11:20 AM:
" Not wearing your seatbelt can't be the sole reason you get pulled over. You have to be doing something else first for the officer to have a reason to stop you.
At that point, not wearing your seatbelt is fair game and you can get a ticket for it.
And you're right, it's all about revenue. Hope you caught my sarcasm there. A whole $10 for a citation? Even if 50,000 seatbelt tickets were issued statewide during a Click it or Ticket campaign, you're not talking about very much "revenue" when you subtract the overhead for conducting such a program. Especially since a more reasonable estimate would probably be like 4,000 citations statewide, and then you're talking about $40,000. Wow, big windfall. And of that, an individual city would get maybe $50.
Wear your seatbelt or don't wear your seatbelt. Do whatever you want. Just be prepared to accept the consequences.
Also, FYI, Darwinism is the "survival of the fittest" theory put forth by Charles Darwin. Read a book sometime. "
Its the Law wrote on May 31, 2008 9:13 PM:
" Sometimes the law can't save one from their own stupidity. Young kids like to think they're rebels and don't wear seatbelts. Sadly, they're most likely to be in a serious or fatal car accident. Wearing a seatbelt is the law, whether you like it or not. Just do it. This whole ridiculous rhetoric over revenue just proves ignorance to the nth degree! Hmmm... a fine or dead?! "
Re Re Do your homework wrote on May 31, 2008 11:22 AM:
" You can't get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt?? It's only a secondary offense?? That is 100% absolutely false! The Tomah PD actively pulls people over and tickets them for not wearing seatbelts.
FYI, the whole point of this thread is not about you and your belief in Darwinsim (whatever that means) and it is certainly not about public safety and the welfare of Wisconsin residents. People with 5+ DUIs are still allowed to drive in Wisco. Motorcyclists, bicyclists, persons on school buses and Greyhound buses are not required to wear seatbelts. Don't mistake the Click It or Ticket campaign with your safety.
This is all about your cities and governments not having money and doing whatever it takes to get more. You want new city swimming pools for your kids, highways to be repaved, middle schools and high schools to be renovated, a new gigantic justice center to be built? Rather than raise taxes (which will happen anyway) they will pull you over and take your money. Remember what Sgt Preuss said: We wont accept excuses, and you wont get a warning or a second chance. "
RE Do your homework wrote on May 30, 2008 11:52 PM:
" To add to your comments, I thought I'd point out that you can't get pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt. It's a secondary offense, so you won't get a seatbelt ticket unless you're speeding, or caught in some other traffic violation.
I do think that it's important for people to wear their seatbelts, and it's certainly proven that doing so greatly increases your chances of surviving an accident. However, in my belief in Darwinism, I also have to say that stupid people who don't want to wear their seatbelts should continue doing so. If that's your choice though, you should be willing to pay your $10 and move on. Consider it a moron tax. "
Re. Do your homework wrote on May 29, 2008 8:02 AM:
" Learn how to:
1. Spell
2. Write a coherent sentence "
Do your homework.... wrote on May 28, 2008 1:25 PM:
" Ive been seeing all this cryin and whinin over seatbelts. And the one gripe I see over and over is "generating revenue". And the first question I have is, have any of you bothered to research your accusations and assumptions before cryin about them? Do any of you know for a WISCONSIN statuatory seatbelt violation (which is a whopping 10 DOLLARS!) the city only gets like 2 dollars? if that? If you would do your homework you would also know this is a STATE DEPT OF JUSTICE campaign, NOT a city campaign! so STOP blaming the one entity whose only existance is to protect your unappreciative arses and your families, at the bare minimum, do your homework before making BS accusations. Seatbelts save lives bottom line, and FYI in MN the seatbelt fine is $250 "
Then dont wear one... wrote on May 27, 2008 11:22 PM:
" No one says "YOU HAVE TO WEAR A SEATBELT." It just says, if you don't you will be fined.
It'll be interesting to see what you choose to do for yorself once you get fined! "
Totally Disingenious wrote on May 27, 2008 10:47 AM:
" Yet we don't have seat belts on buses for our school kids but if they ride with a parent to a school event they can get a ticket for no belt in a private vehicle....This is totally about revenue pure and simply Government out of control......How about if we have a seat belt law it must apply to all vehicles or none.....Time for our Government to act like it's supposed to and represent the people not just to make laws to write tickets......DISGUSTING "
Other stuff wrote on May 25, 2008 10:47 PM:
" The cops should sit down on the intersection of 12 and 21 and catch all the bone heads making u-turns at the lights and left turns from the through traffic lanes. They can also watch for seat belt violators too. Like others said just buckle up and stop the whining. Should be law also about using cell phone. "
Re. SeriouslyShhhh wrote on May 25, 2008 3:31 PM:
" I have 2 quick points. One, I believe we all agree that it is not difficult to wear a seatbelt. However, when local law enforcement institutes a new campaign solely to increase revenue then we must, as citizens of a democracy, voice our opinion. Second, what's up with "Seriously" and "Shhhhh"?? Is questioning a bogus crackdown by the local law enforcement out of bounds for you two? I suggest you both wake up and think about what's really happening here. Imagine what things will be like in 20 years if citizens continue to just sit and take whatever local and federal govts. feel like dishing out. "
Re Seatbelt Sall wrote on May 24, 2008 4:01 PM:
" Good point! I like that idea! "
Seriously wrote on May 24, 2008 10:30 AM:
" Must we always find SOMETHING to belly-ache about? Just wear your darn seatbelt and you'll have no problems with the law. It's not like its some grueling task! "
Seatbelt Sally wrote on May 23, 2008 7:47 PM:
" I believe that it is not the government's place to force seatbelt use. Insurance companies should require it. Just like some insurance plans won't cover smokers or the obese - auto insurance companies should ask whether the insured is a seatbelt user. If they get in an accident and it is determined that they were not wearing their seatbelts, then the policy is void. "
Confused wrote on May 23, 2008 11:29 AM:
" There are a couple of questions....ok, does a motorcyclist also need a seat belt? And why isn't it mandated that school bus children also be seat belted?! "
ME wrote on May 22, 2008 2:50 PM:
" I totally agree with wearing seatbelts, but not to get fined if you choose not to wear it. I really think it should be a choice, just as it is for a motorcyclist to choose not to wear a helmet if they are over 18. I choose to wear a seatbelt because it saved my life this past winter when I hit black ice and rolled my vehicle. I do admit, before that, sometimes I would wear it, sometimes I wouldn't, I ALWAYS wear it now. Thats my story, but anyways, I think that the police should be more concerned about people talking on phones, eating, or even READING (yes I've seen it), or any other dangerous activity that takes your attention away from the road! "
Officials wrote on May 22, 2008 5:39 AM:
" Its all politics people. The people you elected into state office won't pass cell phone driving laws or mandatory motorcycle helmet laws. It's not right but it's how things are done. "
RE confused wrote on May 21, 2008 12:12 AM:
" it has me scratching my head to at motorcyclists that need no helmet but I have to wear my seatbelt.???? They travel just as fast as we do in a car but I guess its who you bl-- not what makes sence in this world!!!
"
Shhhhhh wrote on May 20, 2008 11:49 PM:
" Wear your seatbelt and shut up. "
confused wrote on May 20, 2008 2:39 PM:
" Lets see I can eat and drink while driving. I can talk on my phone and play video's in my car. But if I dont put on a seat belt I get a fine. Ive never heard of people causing an accident by not wearing a seat belt. Sounds like they just need another revenue stream to pay for their bloated budgets. Why not try to prevent accidents instead of making accidents safer. Ban food in cars. Band dvd's and phone use in cars. Next road blocks for unbuckled drivers. They can show all the stats they want. But if an accident does not happen we would not need seat belts. And to fine someone that was hurt in a crash because someone was eating McDonalds and not paying attention for not wearing the seat belt is a joke. Not many dead people come out of a car when buckled up. Well maybe with the same attitude with people doing extra when they should be driving we wouldn't need seat belts. Oh and by the way it isn't cost effective to put seat belts in busses to help protect our children. Double standard or what. "
Richard wrote on May 20, 2008 8:27 AM:
" Is this a joke? Click It or Ticket?? The newspapers in Wisconsin are constantly reporting of people having multiple DWIs. Apparently the solution is to set up a state-wide task force to write tickets for people not wearing seat belts. Ludicrous.No warning and no second chance=easy money for local city governments. "
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