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Published - Wednesday, May 28, 2008

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Editorial: Reforms would leave poor with less health care

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Congressman Paul Ryan (R-Janesville) has a novel approach to the nation’s health care crisis:

Provide poor people with less care.

Ryan has received considerable attention for presenting his “Roadmap for the Future,” and he has even been mentioned as a running mate for likely Republican Presidential nominee John McCain. While Ryan deserves credit for developing a detailed plan, it falls short of actually providing a safety net for the old, the sick and the vulnerable.

Ryan would radically transform Medicare and Medicaid by issuing refundable tax credits for recipients of Medicare and Medicaid. People under age 55 would get a refundable tax credit of $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families, while Medicare recipients would get a payment of $9,500.

Has Ryan shopped for individual health insurance policies lately? Where can a family buy a policy for $5,000 per year? Wisconsin has a “High Risk Insurance Sharing Plan” that provides coverage for individuals who have been denied by two other carriers, but the rates for a 40-year-old individual with a $2,500 per year deductible are $2,866 per year for man and $3,648 for a woman. That doesn’t include any children, who now are likely to be covered under other state and federal programs (would SCHIP even exist under Ryan’s plan?) Annual premiums of $6,514 (not including children) may not sound like much to a Congressman making $170,000 per year, but it’s huge for a family of four living on $40,000.

Ryan’s numbers don’t make sense for Medicare either. The reason Medicare was created in the first place is because private insurers wouldn’t sell high-risk policies to elderly customers at any price. Unless Ryan’s plan prohibits insurers from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions (older people tend to have them), his voucher is worthless.

There’s a broader problem with Ryan’s plan. He says the existing system is “unsustainable,” but apparently believes the existing system in which private-sector bureaucrats gobble up 31 cents of every health-care dollars can be sustained forever. Another point: Ryan says nothing about the “unsustainability” of government subsidies for exurban sprawl and professional sports franchises, or waging a $3 trillion pre-emptive war. It’s only when discussing subsidies for the poor, sick, elderly and vulnerable does the word “unsustainable” enter the political discourse.

Ryan’s proposals for expanded Health Savings Accounts, broader risk pools and more transparency of costs might work at the margins, but there are only two ways to substantially reduce health care costs: radically alter the bloated insurance system or ration care. Ryan, through a system of deficient tax subsidies, has chosen the latter, and it’s the poor who would bear the brunt of his rationing. If that’s the roadmap for America’s future, then America is headed down a wrong-way street.
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RERe rerereclassic wrote on Jun 3, 2008 1:15 PM:

" YOUR SO WRONG

First off why is the infrastructure crumbling????

SIMPLE the States and the FEDS have taken the money for the Highways and WASTED IT ON OTHER PROJECTS.

The amount of money that comes for the Highways is totally unbelievable but MOST OF THAT MONEY IS REDIRECTED TO SPEND ON UW' SYSTEM and other pet projects

your argument is so flawed in so many respects it would take all day to explain it completely.

But when you say the 90% bracket was a good thing you haven't a clue as to how many actually had offshore accounts and the fact that once the High end taxes were reduced our economy expanded big time, this was done under JFK, then Reagan then under Bush. And Clinton even cut some taxes in the mid 90's

When you raise taxes you shrink the economy as CLINTON did in 93 then in 95 Newt Gingrich shut down the government until Clinton passed the tax cuts of that year which spurred big time growth. Also the 90's weren't nearly as good as your trying to say, REMEMBER ENRON,WORLD COM and all the others cooking the books this all started in 96 and 97 which terribly skewed the numbers of what the economy really was Plus the DOT.COM BUST. Plus we started the Huge Bubble problems that were have today jumping form one market to another. ALSO the SUB-PRIME mess were into today originated in the 90's


Yeah don't tell me the myth of the 90's being so good because the numbers just aren't there.

Also Clinton did balance the budget with the help of Gingrich, and then Clinton took over $100 Billion our of Defense to do it, then we had to put it all back in 2001.

If you REALLY have paid attention in the 90's the FEDS did some terrificly great bookkeeping to show a surplus when they all knew it couldn't last because of the amount of money that was shifted to later years when Clinton was going to be out of office.

HOW ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT QUIT SPENDING MONEY, it's a very simple CONCEPT

BIG TAXES WILL MEAN BIGGER GOVERNMENT "

Re rerereclassic wrote on Jun 3, 2008 8:40 AM:

" Of course the wealthiest pay the most in taxes. Without the wealthiest being in the 90% tax bracket for 20 years from the 1940s to the 1960s, we would never have constructed the freeway system or created the middle class (thanks to the GI Bill). Now our bridges and highways are crumbling and the middle class is dwindling. Right or wrong, we need the wealthy to pay more than their percentage share, or the country will not make it. That's reality. We need some collective action to be a country. We need more than individual greed and market worship. "

rererere classic wrote on May 30, 2008 12:38 PM:

" The massive tax cuts disregarded a million things stillleft undaone in America by this republican administration. I belive my grandma would have called it "penny wise but pound foolish". "

re classic liberal wrote on May 30, 2008 7:38 AM:

" Those who make more should pay more. It has worked pretty well and even created surplusses (not that any conservative knows what that is) during the Clinton Whitehouse.Everytime you"conservatives" get into power the deficit skyrockets. "

rerereclassic wrote on May 29, 2008 11:46 PM:

" classic liberal; doesn't know that the wealthiest 25% pay for 86% of the taxes. Do your research. "

Rere classic wrote on May 29, 2008 2:47 PM:

" Classic republican do nothing to solve anything but cut taxes for the wealthy. "

rere classic wrote on May 29, 2008 2:42 PM:

" I suggest we talk in a reasonable way and create a system where we pay but all are covered. "

REone of the unfortunate few wrote on May 29, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Sorry to here about your situation and hope the best for you.

I have a question, did you have health insurance prior to developing your problem? and if not why? Unless i missed something is this a problem you were born with and never could get insured? Did you have a job and have insurance and lost your job and couldn't afford insurance for no fault of your own? These are all qualify questions for properly discussing your situation

I know a woman that works for a local company in HR and she told me that over 80% of all the young people that start work there they opt out of health insurance, so if they develop a problem after opt-ing out then it is there fault, they had the opportunity to by insurance and chose there own destiny

My point is this would you by a car that is out of date,broken and not fixable for a new car price? certainly no-one would, it wouldn't be feasible. so to expect an insurance company to insure a sure loss after it's been proven, they are not going to do it, and how can we expect them to insure someone that had an opportunity to by the insurance prior. that would be like buying the winning lottery ticket after it was drawn, Everyone would wait to buy insurance only after they develop a condition.

If on the other hand you could never buy insurance or lost a job no fault of your own or was canceled for any reason other than non-payment then Medicare should be a program to be utilized, but MEDICARE or MEDICAID should not be a program for those that choose not to ever buy insurance prior to developing a condition "

re classic wrote on May 28, 2008 4:01 PM:

" what do you suggest, have WI go bankrupt and start paying 60+ percent in taxes so everyone has "free" healthcare? I take it you don't want to do anything about the problem yourself. It's so much better complaining about what's going on rather than doing something about it. Typical Democrat; do less, and pay more for no solution. "

one of the unfortunate few wrote on May 28, 2008 3:40 PM:

" I am now (since April) on Medicare and have a pre-existing condition. There is not one health insurance company that agreed to cover me prior to my qualifying for Medicare insurance, even though my husband and I were willing to pay monthly premiums up to $1,000.00 just to cover me. That is my entire monthly income, so I wasn't expecting a cheap policy, but I still couldn't find one. My husband is self-employed and has had insurance for himself for years with reasonable premiums. The voucher plan would not help me at all. Granted, I am a small minority, a non-poor person that can't find insurance, but the health care system should help all Americans. "

This is a LIE wrote on May 28, 2008 2:43 PM:

" Where can you get Family coverage yourself for under $5000 a year. Well unless you can't make a few phone calls just about anywhere

I pay around $3600 a year for me,wife and 3 kids, with dental I am self-employed and we have better insurance then my wife had working at a local factory that she paid almost as much for with the employer as I pay for all of us without an employer

I have a Deductible of $2500 but if you have a health savings account then you write off that money and you have money to cover the Deductible. Health saving accounts are great but never get any press and that is really terrible

at some point in time people have to take care of themselves instead of having the government take care of them and we need to open up HEALTH CARE AND INSURANCES to people to control the rising cost as it is now Insurance companies can play the game that the State don't allow them to do certain things and that's why they get away with charging more. The Insurance companies do have to much money going to private-sector bureaucrats, but much of that money is actually going towards attorneys fees also, which this article conveniently forgot to mention

Just like the MORONIC un-insured motorist JOKE in this state I have to pay on each vehicle. WHY IS MOTOR VEHICLE INSURANCE NOT LAW? this is typical of lawmakers leave loopholds for insurance companies to wiggle through. Then complain about them. Get this in Wisconsin you don't have to have insurance unless you get into an accident, WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN. So who failed who with this law?

We have far to many Politicians that get money from all groups good and bad and make terrible legislation to protect all groups and leave the people out in the cold.

as far as Universal Health care that is a joke it just doesn't work nearly as well as those touting it would claim

OH YEAH let's not forget that we need TORT REFORM BADLY.

Also what about all to FRAUD IN MEDICARE AND MEDICAID?????? California has hundreds of Millions of dollars in Fraud could even be in the billions by now

Until we make laws that specifically state what the laws are we are always going to have problems with Health care and Insurance in the private sector as well as in the Government Sector. A HUGE problem with Health care is the Government playing games "

classic wrote on May 28, 2008 8:24 AM:

" It is classic republican.Do less and call it more. "

hmmm wrote on May 27, 2008 11:12 PM:

" My heart goes out to those who are unable to afford healthcare. We are the richest, and most generous people on the planet and we should be helping them! However, I can't think of one thing that the government has done right! Let's stop counting on the government to do everything and start doing it ourselves. If you want to help, roll up your sleeves and do it the American way! Start your own non-profit organization, give to charity. Take it into your own hands and you will see more results than putting healthcare in the hands of a bunch of bureaucrats. Complaining about government faults is like sitting on a rocking chair; you can do it all day long, but it isn't going to get you anywhere. "

Tim Morales wrote on May 27, 2008 4:17 PM:

" I think you should go back and read the Roadmap for the Future as you have seemed to missed the point and the whole program.

Ryan is taking ideas of both Republicans and Democrats to help solve these problems.

We can not keep going down the same path. At least Ryan is offering a solution.

This is the problem in Washington today. You want to make it a one sided issue, rather than work to get it fixed. "

observer wrote on May 26, 2008 9:54 PM:

" Excellent editorial! It is refreshing to see good critical, analytical thinking - and one that isn't afraid to support a point of view that may not sit well with some advertisers. In our conservative town (in another state), one hospital is a major employer. Needless to say, the paper is staunchly against universal health care. Thanks again for the progressive stance! "


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