Chris King wrote on Jun 10, 2008 6:50 AM:
" Yeah, Thomas Jefferson first introduced the term "separation of church and state" in a letter to the Danbury Baptists.
However, it cannot be overstated, the intent of the letter and that phrase was to REASSURE THOSE CHURCH MEMBERS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE CHURCH. The 1st amendment's intention was to limit Federal government's intrusion into the Church. It was not intended to remove morality or Christian values, which western civilization is forged upon, from the public square or legislation! "
bumper sticker politics wrote on Jun 10, 2008 12:10 AM:
" I find it funny that this whole thing started with a bumper sticker against hillary. The irony is that the democrats RUN their campaigns on bumper sticker slogans, such as "he voted for tax cuts for the rich" or "big oil has to pay" or "change" or "free healthcare". Where are the facts? It sounds great, but once you start looking at the facts, the bumper sticker slogans get you about as far as the rusty pick-up truck that's sportin' them. The rich should get tax cuts, they pay the taxes! Oil is a publicly traded commodity, and the oil companies are paying a high price for the unrefined product. Then you have to add in the cost of refining it, the cost for research and development, taxes (which by the way, the government makes more on the oil than the oil companies do!). If you want to blame anyone for oil prices, we need to blame ourselves. You see all that need "made in china" stuff on wal-mart shelves? Well, now that china is an industrial nation, they are using a lot more energy, as is India. When you buy foreign goods, they make more of it. You think you are getting a deal when you are buying that cheap stuff, but it all comes around when they are using more energy which in turn drives up the price of oil. So instead of blaming "big oil" which makes 8% profit, blame the government, which makes 16% profit, and then think twice about buying foreign goods. But see, that doesn't all fit on a bumper sticker, so I guess "big oil has to pay" will have to do. (((sigh))) "
Trick question not Brian wrote on Jun 9, 2008 5:48 PM:
" Both Democracy and Republic apply to our form of government.
And yes, as you point out the 1st Amendment prevents the federal government from establishing a religion, or limiting the individual's "free exercise" of their chosen religion.
However, the "seperation of church and state" was a belief closely held by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, as well as most other influential people of the time. It was the framer's intention to keep the two seperated. But hey, maybe their constitutional knowledge isn't up to your level either. I mean...all they did was write the thing.
So maybe your understanding of history and our constitution isn't as extensive as you think it is. Perhaps you're trying to intentionally mislead us? No...that couldn't be.
And before you call me a liberal mass media slave, I am a republican and am very anti-Obama. "
Chris King wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:02 AM:
" "...keep up the separation of church and state..." Again, Mr. liberal aka Brian is demonstrating his lack of constitutional knowledge (or is it a concerted effort to mislead,) as I assume he is referring to the first amendment, and the 1st amendment DOES NOT ordain a "separation!" The 1st amendment simply states that CONGRESS shall not establish any laws establishing any religion. It further states that the CONGRESS can not interfere with a person's right to practice their religion as they see fit!
By the way Brian, do we live in a democracy or a republic? "
Brian wrote on Jun 8, 2008 5:59 PM:
" I think it is the conservatives who carry the "stink" of their church on them. Chris King's repeated sermons on this site are a good lesson on why it is important to keep up the separation of church and state. "
Chris King wrote on Jun 7, 2008 2:54 PM:
" Unfortunately, the MSM, while playing the Rev. Wright clips regularly, simply attempted to minimize the impact and play down the negative effect those clips have on Obama's campaign. Furthermore, the MSM has given Obama a pass by only covering the tip of the iceberg, as far as Obama's shady mentors, advisers, and cohorts.
Do Barack supporters and the MSM really think that the Rev. Wright things is over simply because he "left" that apostate church? The fact is that Wright was not the exception at that church. The new pastor of that church has done nothing but sing the praises of Wright and perpetuate Wright's hate whitey agenda!
I know many reading this now may be thinking, "but Obama left the church, done deal." Sorry, the facts are that Obama was a member and rising star in this church for 20+ years. While he did resign his membership, he still has refused to condemn the teachings of that church.
Either way, Obama is done for. If you truly believe that he left his church of 20+ years because of politics, and abandoned his passion for his version of the truth, it demonstrates a complete lack of integrity. On the other hand, if you think he simply resigned his membership at Trinity to improve his political chances, while his heart is still with that church, it demonstrates how divisive and dangerous Obama's world view really is!
20+ years of living and breathing the hatred coming out of that church will not just disappear overnight. The MSM may wish it were not so, but the majority of Americans will have the stink of Obama's church and his divisive world view in their nostrils for years to come. "
Brian re Chris King wrote on Jun 6, 2008 4:52 PM:
" Chris says "the main stream media manufactured Obama's campaign?" Yeah, right, like when they played endless clips of the infamous Rev Wright, who spoke despicable words when Obama was not there to hear them. Calling him a socialist is a lie. Judge Obama for what he is. The child of a broken home, family on food stamps for a time, attended prestigous colleges of scholarship, worked on the mean streets of Chicago as a community organizer. His story is a tale of success and achievement based on merit that we all wish our children could achieve. Obama speaks of change and unity and a return to American values of hope and optimism with a concern for the working poor. Conservatives will lie and name call plenty this fall because their own candidate is an over the hill warmonger with no plan for the future other than continuing the failed policies of George Bush. "
Goof Ticket wrote on Jun 6, 2008 4:49 PM:
" We saw the same thing in 1932.
The GOP controlled the White House, Senate & House...and they to, blamed everyone else for the nation's problems.
The Depression was all the Brits fault, fo going off the Gold Standard; Union workers caused the closing of thousands of companies, and women were upstarts, not really understanding how to vote.
The Republicans, were appeasing toward Germany, in 1932.
Voters were angry in 1932, and after the GOP was taken to the woodshed that November, they lost the White House to FDR, and the Senate had only 18 Senators and 88 Congressmen, on the Republican side of the aisle. They were summarily fired by the electorate.
Voters are angry and we plan on giving your your well-deserved 'pink slips' this November. The race & gender card is not going to fly.
Just hope we are not beyond a recession, by November. "
Tom wrote on Jun 6, 2008 2:46 PM:
" The word pompous comes to mind. He's black, he's a Democrat, and UCC member. He's not the devil, really. He doesn't fly around in a black helicopter and he won't imbed a chip in your kids' ears. We made it through GW and the gang ... including Falwell and his flock ... so whatever happens in November has to be better. "
re Chris King wrote on Jun 6, 2008 2:34 PM:
" It is good to hear you demonize Barck.I assume others find you as obnxious and overbearing as i do so you will rpobabaly drum up votes for Barack. "
Chris King wrote on Jun 6, 2008 12:09 PM:
" Go ahead, attempt to demonize or dismiss my assertions. However, I urge you to recognize that your attempts to minimize my arguments are a veiled attempt to silence what you wish were not the truth! "
George wrote on Jun 6, 2008 11:57 AM:
" Hey guys, lighten up and save yourselves a hard attack. If you are so worked up now, I really would hate to see your blood pressure when he is your President in January.
Please calm down and ease yourself into acceptance "
Tom wrote on Jun 6, 2008 10:48 AM:
" Chris: We live in a great country, don't we? You can say the garbage you want to say and people can actually read it and laugh at you. You gotta love it. "
Chris King wrote on Jun 5, 2008 4:33 PM:
" In actuality, the conservative support for Hillary Clinton says more about the extremism of Barack Obama than it does about a change of heart about Clinton among conservatives.
That's right folks, Barack Obama is to Hillary Clinton as George Soros is to Jerry Fallwell!
The American people know this is a FACT, and conservatives, center-rights, moderates, and center-lefts will turn out in droves to sink Obama and his hard left, communist mentored, socialist inspired, false social gospel, anti-Christian, sovereignty denying, hate whitey ideology and agenda!
The rich, blame America for everything people of this nation, the minorities that continue to blame everyone but their own poor decisions for their plight, and their bought and paid for main stream media have manufactured Obama's candidacy. Thankfully, the remaining majority of American people will recognize this, and Obama will realize that the election for the Presidency of the United States is not as easily manipulated as the primary election for the Democratic nomination! "